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		<title>Numbers</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Jan 2009 19:49:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think I have a special affinity for anniversaries and the idea of life running in circles&#8230; or life is indeed running in circles&#8230; Break (the first draft of Platoon&#8217;s story) was written in 1969, nearly a decade after Stone came back from Vietnam. It took another decade from The Platoon script to the movie (1976-1986). The movie takes [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=platoonics.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4341971&amp;post=1883&amp;subd=platoonics&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think I have a special affinity for anniversaries and the idea of life running in circles&#8230; or life is indeed running in circles&#8230;</p>
<p><em>Break</em> (the first draft of <em>Platoon&#8217;s</em> story) was written in 1969, nearly a decade after Stone came back from Vietnam. It took another decade from <em>The Platoon</em> script to the movie (1976-1986). The movie takes place in 1967, a year of my birth. I was 21 seeing it for the first time: the same age as Stone as he went to Vietnam. It was in 1988 &#8212; 20 years ago.</p>
<p>It took a little more than a decade to complete my own story based on the <em>Platoon</em> experience &#8212; I finished the first draft in 1999. So maybe it&#8217;s time to start rewriting it&#8230; <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And last but not least&#8230;<br />
<span style="font-weight:normal;">It&#8217;s one year since I&#8217;ve got a message from a fellow <em>Platoon</em> addict, which &#8212; after years of abstinence &#8212; resurected my old good obsession, and in the end inspired me to start this blog. </span></p>
<p>So happy anniversary and cheers to obsessions that keep us young!</p>
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		<title>Sidetracks: The Horror&#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Sep 2008 15:26:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Some interesting background bits regarding Apocalypse Now, from an article about Kok Ksor, the President of the Montagnard Foundation, Inc. In one of the final scenes of Apocalypse Now Marlon Brando, tired of the war, gives direction to who was sent to kill him: “Go, and tell of the horror, remember the heart of darkness.” The multi-decorated Colonel Kurtz has [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=platoonics.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4341971&amp;post=1867&amp;subd=platoonics&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Some interesting background bits regarding <em>Apocalypse Now</em>, from an <a href="http://www.montagnard-foundation.org/comm-101102.html">article about Kok Ksor</a>, the President of the <a title="Montagnard Foundation, Inc." href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montagnard_Foundation,_Inc.">Montagnard Foundation, Inc.</a></p>
<blockquote><p><a title="Montagnard Foundation, Inc." href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Montagnard_Foundation,_Inc."></a><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-1805" title="cudz" src="http://platoonics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cudz.jpg?w=510" alt="" /><span style="color:#003366;">In one of the final scenes of Apocalypse Now Marlon Brando, tired of the war, gives direction to who was sent to kill him: “Go, and tell of the horror, remember the heart of darkness.” The multi-decorated Colonel Kurtz has to die because he does not obey the orders of the American General Staff: he has allied himself with an indigenous tribe and is conducting a personal war against the Viet Cong.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#003366;">From the screen of a laptop, Kurtz/Brando is talking directly to him, to the Vietnamese who since 1975 travels the world to tell of the horror, the horror of then and the horror of now.</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#003366;">[The Montagnard people] were in the middle of [the war], and they saw everything, and they lived the horror to the end. “Yes, I saw it too” like Colonel Kurtz “piles of small arms of the children chopped off with machetes to terrorize the population, to convince them not to accept American help, not even for the Polio vaccination. (&#8230;)</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">At the beginning we did not want to take sides. But the Americans have used us: they allowed the Viet Cong to attack our villages, and for us it was almost impossible to defend ourselves. Then they promised that at the end of the war they would have helped us regain our independence. So we did take sides, and we have been the fiercest allies of the Americans. But not of the Generals or of the Politicians: of the soldiers, of the non-commissioned officers. For us it was people who had come to help us, had come to die of a country that was not their own. Yes, the loyalty of the tribe around Colonel Kurtz in the film is real. We are a very loyal people.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>This lines bear certain irony, as the model role of John Wayne as the American super-soldier seems to be at least a little ambiguous (<a href="http://www.angelfire.com/oh2/writer/johnwayne.html">as stated here</a>).</p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">A great friend of ours was John Wayne, who came to us, at Pleiku, where the Fourth Infantry Division was stationed, to film “Green Berets”, that is the history of how for many years the American strategy has been simply to fortify our villages. I was 17 years old. In those months he lived with us, in the breaks of production he wanted that us kids took him to the jungle “to understand”. With him we built a special link. We gave him our sacred bracelet, a brass strip in the shape of an arrow, with the symbols of the animals we had sacrificed for him. He wore that bracelet until the last day of his life. Now I know that Francis Ford Coppola is also our friend: his movie is almost perfect in all the details when it tells about us.</span></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Platoon (1986) reviewed by Victoria Baschzok</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 21:29:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[found HERE The lady definitely didn&#8217;t get it. I wonder what movie was she watching&#8230; [Platoon] was made up of a young, naive and well-intentioned officer who commanded young, well-intentioned soldiers, including the naive hero, Chris. The source of power in the group was a blondish, pale, beautiful, gentle yet strong and wise sergeant. These [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=platoonics.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4341971&amp;post=1848&amp;subd=platoonics&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>found <a href="http://www.imdb.com/Reviews/93/9366">HERE</a></p>
<p>The lady definitely didn&#8217;t get it. I wonder what movie was she watching&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><img class="alignleft" src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/alveni/HoT/cudz.jpg?t=1221424569" alt="cudz.jpg picture by alveni" width="23" height="17" /><span style="color:#003366;"><span style="color:#003366;">[Platoon] was made up of a young, naive and well-intentioned officer who commanded young, well-intentioned soldiers, including the naive hero, Chris. The source of power in the group was</span><strong><span style="color:#003366;"> a blondish, pale, beautiful, </span></strong><span style="color:#003366;">gentle yet strong and wise sergeant. These people all believed in the American dream and saw themselfves as victims of injustice. </span><span style="color:#003366;"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/alveni/HoT/huh.gif?t=1221426056" alt="huh.gif picture by alveni" /> </span><span style="color:#003366;"><span style="color:#003366;">The source of power in the company was also a sergeant &#8211; a senior staff sergeant. </span></span><span style="color:#003366;"><span style="color:#003366;">However,</span><strong><span style="color:#003366;"> </span></strong></span><span style="color:#003366;"><strong><span style="color:#003366;">he was dark-skinned, cynical, scarred and cunning</span></strong></span><span style="color:#003366;"><span style="color:#003366;"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/alveni/HoT/huh.gif?t=1221426056" alt="huh.gif picture by alveni" /></span></span><span style="font-weight:normal;"><span style="color:#003366;"><span style="color:#003366;"> The first represented the American ideal; the second was the devil. To be more exact, the second represented a constant in American history &#8211; the traitor, </span></span><span style="color:#003366;"><span style="color:#003366;"><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/alveni/HoT/huh.gif?t=1221426056" alt="huh.gif picture by alveni" /> Benedict Arnold in modern dress, the man who believes that men of principle are weak, the force of evil within each person and therefore within the nation. His cynicism and crude interpretation of reality enable him </span><strong><span style="color:#003366;">to trick others into temporarily betraying the American dream</span></strong><span style="color:#003366;">. </span></span><span style="color:#003366;"><span style="color:#003366;"><img src="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/1003/alveni/HoT/th_huh.gif" alt="huh.gif image by alveni" /></span></span></span></span></p></blockquote>
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		<title>A negative review&#8230;</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;of Platoon found HERE. I see, the reviewer didn&#8217;t like the symbolic underlining of the movie, but at least he/she doesn&#8217;t call it leftist propaganda made by a jerk and conspiracy theorist, lol. I kind of like the John Wayne comparison. Rather than being about the Vietnam war as it really was, this film is basically [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=platoonics.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4341971&amp;post=1846&amp;subd=platoonics&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;of <em>Platoon</em> found <a href="http://shop.homemediamagazine.com/shop.php?c=146&amp;n=586156&amp;i=B00005AUJQ&amp;x=Platoon_Special_Edition">HERE.</a> I see, the reviewer didn&#8217;t like the symbolic underlining of the movie, but at least he/she doesn&#8217;t call it leftist propaganda made by a jerk and conspiracy theorist, lol. I kind of like the John Wayne comparison.</p>
<blockquote><p><img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/1003/alveni/HoT/cudz.jpg?t=1221424569" alt="cudz.jpg picture by alveni" /><span style="color:#003366;">Rather than being about the Vietnam war as it really was, this film is basically an exercise in what America wants the vietnam war to be. Despite endless comments to the contrary, there is nothing &#8220;realistic&#8221; about the film. The characters and plot are almost cartoonish. <strong>Its like a postmodernist John Wayne movie with different politics</strong>.</span><span class="aom_tr"><span style="color:#003366;">In real life, things don&#8217;t break down into &#8220;good&#8221; soldiers and &#8220;evil&#8221; soldiers. Real life and real people are about shades of grey. The war also changed over time. Oliver Stone served in 1967 but the movie is often showing situations that were more out of 1971 with which he had no personal experience.</span></span></p>
<p><span style="color:#003366;">What a real film about vietnam would show is ordinary people doing a tough job day after day and doing the best they could. Its not about archtype evil officers, good/evil &#8220;father&#8221; figures and long political monologues. </span></p>
<p><span style="color:#003366;">About the only thing this film got right were the uniforms.</span></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Sidetracks: Heroes of My Lai honoured</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Was looking what MSN Live Search has to offer about OS and Platoon and found an excerpts from &#8220;Napalm am Morgen&#8221; (Napalm in the Morning), a German book about Vietnam War Movies which mentioned this: From BBC News website, Saturday, March 7, 1998:  Heroes of My Lai honoured Two soldiers [Hugh Thompson Jr and Lawrence Colburn] who stopped [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=platoonics.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4341971&amp;post=1836&amp;subd=platoonics&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was looking what MSN Live Search has to offer about OS and <em>Platoon</em> and found an excerpts from &#8220;Napalm am Morgen&#8221; (Napalm in the Morning), a German book about Vietnam War Movies which mentioned this:</p>
<p>From BBC News website, Saturday, March 7, 1998: <br />
<a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/62924.stm"><strong> Heroes of My Lai honoured</strong></a></p>
<blockquote><p><img src="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/1003/alveni/HoT/th_cudz.jpg" alt="cudz.jpg image by alveni" /><span style="color:#003366;">Two soldiers [Hugh Thompson Jr and Lawrence Colburn] who stopped their comrades from slaughtering innocent civilians during the Vietnam War 30 years ago have been awarded the Soldier&#8217;s Medal. The family of a third, who was later killed in the conflict, will also receive the honour, the highest the US Army can award for bravery not involving direct conflict with the enemy.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>I cannot believe it took 30 years! Sadly, Hugh Thompson died on cancer in 2006 and Ronald Ridenhour, who sputted the investigation in May 1998.</p>
<p>However on Thompson&#8217;s Wikipedia page there is a quotation of a dialogue between Thompson and Calley:</p>
<blockquote><p><img src="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/1003/alveni/HoT/th_cudz.jpg" alt="" /><span style="color:#003366;">Calley: [I am] Just following [orders]&#8230;<br />
Thompson: But, these are human beings, unarmed civilians, sir.<br />
Calley: Look Thompson, <strong>this is my show</strong>. I&#8217;m in charge here. It ain&#8217;t your concern. </span></p></blockquote>
<p>I wonder if Stone intentionally gave a similar line to Barnes.</p>
<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-</p>
<p><strong>Further links: <br />
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<li><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9803/16/my.lai/">&#8216;Blood and fire&#8217; of My Lai remembered 30 years later</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.cnn.com/US/9803/06/my.lai.ceremony/">Another CNN article with transcript and video</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,840403,00.html">TIME Magazine article</a> from 1968</li>
<li><a href="http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,107922,00.html">American Tragedy</a>, TIME Magazine</li>
<li><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre">Wikipedia article</a></li>
<li><a href="http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/mylai.htm">The My Lay Cases: an Account</a> at UMKC School of Law website, which also contains <a href="http://www.law.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/mylai/ridenhour_ltr.html">the text of Ridenhour&#8217;s letter</a> to Congress and Pentagon officials from March 1969.</li>
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<p><a href="http://edition.cnn.com/WORLD/9803/16/my.lai/"> </a></p>
<p>Well, what a way to spend 3 hours of a Sunday afternoon&#8230;</p>
<dd><span style="color:#003366;">Calley: Look Thompson, this is my show. I&#8217;m in charge here. It ain&#8217;t your concern.</span></dd>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Sep 2008 13:50:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8230;found in an article about about tattoos from The Indian Runner. His left hand says &#8220;kill&#8221; across the knuckles and the right reads &#8220;f*ck.&#8221; That pretty much summarizes Frank&#8217;s attitude in life and how he often deals with things. Tatoos on one&#8217;s knuckles might be just a popular way of stating one&#8217;s attitude, or just another [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=platoonics.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4341971&amp;post=1829&amp;subd=platoonics&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230;found in <a href="http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art58608.asp">an article</a> about about tattoos from <em>The</em><em> Indian Runner.</em></p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#003366;"><img src="http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/1003/alveni/HoT/th_cudz.jpg" alt="cudz.jpg image by alveni" />His left hand says &#8220;kill&#8221; across the knuckles and the right reads &#8220;f*ck.&#8221; That pretty much summarizes Frank&#8217;s attitude in life and how he often deals with things.</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Tatoos on one&#8217;s knuckles might be just a popular way of stating one&#8217;s attitude, or just another &#8220;shadow&#8221; of <em>Platoon</em> smuggled by Viggo. Only that in Frankie&#8217;s world of extremes &#8220;love&#8221; turned into &#8220;f*ck&#8221; and &#8220;hate&#8221; became &#8220;kill&#8221;. How fitting&#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[American Studies 2000 Actually, one of the few reviews dealing with both Illias and Moby Dick parallel as well as. read the whole article The civil war among the unit is set up using traditional mythological symbols. Elias and Barnes can be viewed as conflicting mythological gods, with differing views of the world and war. Stone has [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=platoonics.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4341971&amp;post=1824&amp;subd=platoonics&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>American Studies 2000<br />
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<p>Actually, one of the few reviews dealing with both <em>Illias</em> and <em>Moby Dick</em> parallel as well as.</p>
<p><a href="http://web.wm.edu/amst/370/projects2000/Stone/public_html/platoon1.html">read the whole article</a></p>
<blockquote><p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1805" title="cudz" src="http://platoonics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cudz.jpg?w=23&#038;h=17" alt="" width="23" height="17" /><span style="color:#003366;">The civil war among the unit is set up using traditional mythological symbols. Elias and Barnes can be viewed as conflicting mythological gods, with differing views of the world and war. Stone has said that the two characters can be viewed as Achilles (Barnes) and Hector (Elias), both characters from Trojan War mythology. These comparisons are easily seen. Barnes has the same angered disposition as Achilles, and Elias has the same problems of conscious as Hector, fighting the Trojan War which he has deemed a losing battle.</span></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1805" title="cudz" src="http://platoonics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cudz.jpg?w=23&#038;h=17" alt="" width="23" height="17" /><span style="color:#003366;">Stone goes farther with literary references in presenting the character of Barnes as a modern incarnation of Captain Ahab from </span><em><span style="color:#003366;">Moby Dick</span></em><span style="color:#003366;">. In voice over, Taylor says that &#8220;through him, our Captain Ahab, we would set things right again&#8221;(&#8230;) To accentuate the reference, Stone has given Barnes a scar down the side of his face, exactly like one that appears on the face of Ahab in the Melville story. His actions also resemble Ahab. Ahab is obsessed with revenge, as is Barnes in his determination to defeat not only the Vietnamese, but also Elias for control of the squad.</span></p></blockquote>
<blockquote><p><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1805" title="cudz" src="http://platoonics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cudz.jpg?w=23&#038;h=17" alt="" width="23" height="17" /><span style="color:#003366;">Stone portrays Taylor&#8217;s trip to Vietnam as a descend into the underworld, a theme that appears in a number of stories from mythology. The movie is bookended by scenes of Taylor&#8217;s arrival and departure from Vietnam. It begins with his helicopter landing, literally representing a descent into the new world. (&#8230;) Likewise, the film ends with his departure on the helicopter, being lifted to safety from the underworld. Stone also includes a scene where fellow soldier Rhah asks Taylor &#8220;What are you doing in the underworld?&#8221;</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Hmm&#8230; right, it is the only time someone uses the name &#8220;Underworld&#8221; in the movie. We (viewers) tend to name it this way only because of what Rhah says. Stone uses the name in the script to describe the place, but it appears in a dialogue only once.</p>
<p>This we know already&#8230;</p>
<blockquote><p><span style="color:#003366;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1805" title="cudz" src="http://platoonics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cudz.jpg?w=23&#038;h=17" alt="" width="23" height="17" /></span><span style="color:#003366;">The most obvious symbol in the film is Sergeant Elias as a Christ figure. Barnes calls Elias a water walker, an obvious reference to the Bible tale where Jesus proves his power by walking across water. More explicitly, the character of sergeant O&#8217;Neill, another military officer portrayed by John C. McGinley, says that Elias thinks that &#8220;he is Jesus f**king Christ.&#8221; Elias&#8217; status as a Christ figure is most unquestionably presented during Elias&#8217; dramatic death sequence.</span></p></blockquote>
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		<title>Sidetracks: A poster spotted in FMJ</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[Don&#8217;t you just love computer monitors? They show so much more details than an old TV set, that sometimes I have an impression of watching an entirely new movie.  This time I spotted a poster on the wall  which somehow reminded me of the one I found in Born on the 4th of July. Is [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=platoonics.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4341971&amp;post=1814&amp;subd=platoonics&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Don&#8217;t you just love computer monitors? They show so much more details than an old TV set, that sometimes I have an impression of watching an entirely new movie. </p>
<p>This time I spotted a poster on the wall </p>
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<p>which somehow reminded me of the one I found in <em>Born on the 4th of July.</em></p>
<p><em><span style="font-style:normal;"><img class="alignnone size-full wp-image-1816" title="valor" src="http://platoonics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/valor.jpg?w=132&#038;h=165" alt="" width="132" height="165" /></span></em></p>
<p>Is it only me or they both look like a series? </p>
<p>Still, googling <em>Pride</em> and <em>Valor</em> together didn&#8217;t help much.</p>
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<p><strong>Edited to add:</strong> The bottom line goes like &#8220;????? MEN&#8221;. After trying to enhance the picture in Photoshop, viewing channels, inverting it and doing another strange things to decipher the other word (it&#8217;s not so easy as some movies suggest) I finally gave up. Looked again today and suddenly &#8220;saw&#8221; what the word is: BUILDS. &#8220;Marine Corps builds men&#8221; is a popular line, there is even one military poster from the era with the same line, but it shows a photo. Why I cannot find those two?</p>
<p>They must be authentic, I doubt Kubrick and Stone hired the same artist to fake posters for their movies&#8230;</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[  Strange text following some pattern of analyzing stories that is totally unknown to me. It is full of repetitions and somehow difficult to understand, however sometimes I wish I had that kind of &#8220;intellectual toolkit&#8221; to work with&#8230; What is unusual, the author concentrates on the relation between Chris and Barnes, leaving Elias almost [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=platoonics.wordpress.com&amp;blog=4341971&amp;post=1801&amp;subd=platoonics&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
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<p>Strange text following some pattern of analyzing stories that is totally unknown to me. It is full of repetitions and somehow difficult to understand, however sometimes I wish I had that kind of &#8220;intellectual toolkit&#8221; to work with&#8230; What is unusual, the author concentrates on the relation between Chris and Barnes, leaving Elias almost completely out of the equation, giving him merely the function of a katalyst.</p>
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<p><strong>Storytelling Output Report for &#8221;Platoon&#8221;<br />
by J.D. Cochran<br />
<a href="http://www.dramatica.com/story/analyses/analyses/platoon.html"><span style="font-weight:normal;">read the whole text</span></a></strong></p>
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<blockquote><p><img class="size-full wp-image-1805 alignleft" title="cudz" src="http://platoonics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cudz.jpg?w=23&#038;h=17" alt="" width="23" height="17" /><span style="color:#003366;">In an apparent dilemma story, the main character believes the problem to be in the environment when it is really within him or herself. Chris believes that going off to fight in the Vietnam War will lead him to what he&#8217;s searching for&#8211;to find a cause to engage in and support that he can be proud of, however, fighting in the war isn&#8217;t going to solve Chris&#8217; problem. He has to realize he needs to find pride within himself before he finds it in war, or anywhere else. (&#8230;)</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Women will empathize with &#8220;Platoon&#8221; because the main character is faced with increasingly limited options to find a sense of pride within himself, let alone survive the Vietnam War. (&#8230;)</span></p></blockquote>
<p>This is a really strange statement. The women I knew empathized with the movie, but on a far wider basis than Chris&#8217; &#8220;limited options&#8221;. </p>
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<blockquote><p><img class="size-full wp-image-1805 alignleft" title="cudz" src="http://platoonics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cudz.jpg?w=23&#038;h=17" alt="" width="23" height="17" /></p>
<p><span style="color:#003366;">An illustration of how delusion acts as the catalyst in the objective story is when Bunny paints a fantasy about an old woman and her crippled son being the leaders of the village and agents for the Viet Cong army. After doing so, he commences to beat and kill the innocent civilians. (&#8230;)</span></p></blockquote>
<p>An interesting observation: I never paid much attention to what Bunny said, but indeed what he&#8217;s doing is fabricating a fake backstory to support his actions. I understood his statement as irony, but he probably really believes in his own words. Of course the story HAS some validity as is surely happened that innocent looking people in villages were VC. </p>
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<p>Once I&#8217;ve read someone&#8217;s negative critic mentioning that Chris is a passive character, being <span>dragged</span> through the story instead of actively shaping it. Here is a contrary view:</p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Main Character Approach as it relates to Do-er: There are a number of examples illustrating how Chris prefers to deal with situations externally, and looks for physical solutions to his problems. For instance: Chris drops out of college and enlists in the military to do something positive for his country; He shoots his rifle at the feet of a young, retarded man he finds hiding. This is done as a means of releasing the tension and frustration that has built up from horrific ordeals he and his platoon have recently experienced; While his platoon pillages a small village, Chris rescues a young village girl from being raped by some of the men in his platoon; When Sgt. Elias is missing in the jungle, Chris sets out to find him until he&#8217;s stopped by Sgt. Barnes; Chris attacks Sgt. Barnes when Barnes confronts him and others about killing Sgt. Elias; In the film&#8217;s climatic battle, instead of relying on the safety of his foxhole, Chris leaves to engage the enemy in hand to hand combat; Ultimately, he ends up murdering Sgt. Barnes in an act of revenge for Elias and for himself. (&#8230;)</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>This is also quite right, there was no proof of Barnes killing Elias. Chris knows that when he responses to Doc in the discussion after Elias&#8217; death. He knows he couldn&#8217;t say &#8220;proof is in the eyes&#8221; in any serious courtroom in the world; Even if Barnes somehow admitted it in his &#8220;I am reality&#8221; speech, he still haven&#8217;t said anything which would be a valid guilty plea. So Chris decides to take the justice in his own hands, but his action is &#8212; as mentioned before &#8212; based on assumption:</p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Chris presumes Barnes killed Elias as if it were a fact. But in actuality, he doesn&#8217;t know for sure that Sgt. Barnes killed Elias, it&#8217;s just a feeling that Chris has about him.  (&#8230;)</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#003366;">Even </span><strong><span style="color:#003366;">though he didn&#8217;t see Barnes actually shoot Elias, or has any physical proof of the crime</span></strong><span style="color:#003366;">, Chris still knows Barnes murdered Elias. Chris&#8217; beliefs are derived from the tense, volatile relationship between Elias and Barnes, and the horrible scene where Elias runs from the jungle only to get killed by the enemy soldiers pursuing him. This sight directly contradicts Sgt. Barnes questionable account of how he earlier found Elias dead in the jungle  (&#8230;)</span></p>
<p><span style="color:#003366;">For Barnes, conflict will decrease between the two as soon as Chris can prove himself to be more like a soldier willing to set his morals aside while fighting in Vietnam. Chris accomplishes this when he blows Barnes away. </span><strong><span style="color:#003366;">He does not, however, prove Barnes&#8217; crimes in a way that would allow justice to triumph, which lends to his failure to resolve his personal angst.</span></strong><span style="color:#003366;"> (&#8230;)</span></p>
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<p>This, again, shows that maybe we should pay more attention to the role Chris plays in the story and his relationships to other characters, instead of concentrating on Elias vs. Barnes conflict:</p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Chris Taylor has joined the platoon to fight for his country, and like Sgt. Barnes, he wants to &#8220;be all that he can be.&#8221; He falls short as a soldier in Barnes&#8217; eyes, and further, by Chris aligning himself with the compassionate Sgt. Elias, Chris and Barnes come into conflict. The conflict between the two escalates, to the point of each operating on raw nerves. Barnes is directly responsible for Elias&#8217; death, and Chris, who has become more like his nemesis than his mentor, kills Barnes in a murderous reflex action of revenge. (&#8230;)</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Both the main character [Chris] and the obstacle character [Barnes] see each other as the cause of the problems they are experiencing in their relationship. Barnes&#8217; blatant disregard for ethics of war and his dysfunctional code of morals are like a nagging toothache on Chris&#8217; psyche: CHRIS: Not just me&#8230; it&#8217;s the way the whole thing works. People like Elias get wasted and people like Barnes just go on making up rules any way they want and what do we do, we just sit around in the middle and suck on it! We just don&#8217;t add up to a rat&#8217;s ass. (&#8230;)</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Barnes views Chris the same way he views Elias, an agent out to challenge his way of war, a crusader causing dissension among the men, undermining Barnes&#8217; efforts, and placing the platoon in jeopardy.  (&#8230;)</span></p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-1805 alignleft" title="cudz" src="http://platoonics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cudz.jpg?w=23&#038;h=17" alt="" width="23" height="17" /></p>
<p><span style="color:#003366;">Worth accelerates the conflict between Chris Taylor and Sgt. Barnes. There are many times when Barnes views Taylor as a hindrance and liability to the platoon, and he ultimately tries to kill him. For example: when Chris throws up and can&#8217;t physically handle himself the first time he sees a rotting corpse  (&#8230;); When Chris allegedly falls asleep on his watch,  (&#8230;); When Barnes realizes Chris knows he lied about Elias being dead; When Barnes overhears Chris trying to convince the others that Barnes killed Elias, and in one of the final battle scenes where the tension between Barnes and Chris comes to a head and Barnes tries to kill Chris during the commotion of hand to hand combat with the Viet Cong. Conversely, there are several times when the actions and beliefs Barnes embraces provokes Chris to evaluate Barnes&#8217; worth to the platoon and acts as a catalyst in the tension between the two. For instance, Chris is appalled when Barnes shoots a village woman in the head and then threatens to shoot a young village girl (&#8230;); Chris tries to convince some of the other men that Barnes killed Elias, and that they need to kill Barnes who is becoming an evil, immoral, out-of-control liability to the platoon. By the end of the film, Chris&#8217; moral integrity has deteriorated to the point where he is able to kill Sgt. Barnes, who he sees as a worthless human being. (&#8230;)</span></p></blockquote>
<p>There are different opinions about Barnes trying consciously to kill Chris in the final battle. From the authors POV, it seems to be a logical consequence of the conflict between them. I still wisch stone would make a clearer point here, at least in the commentary&#8230; on the other hand it gives us something to ponder about. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
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<p>Some fragments that seem to negate the popular opinion about Barnes as a &#8220;Frankenstein Monster&#8221; or &#8220;cardboard Satan&#8221;, the author deal with the possible reasons for Barnes&#8217; behaviour:</p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Barnes leads his troops by taking on and acting the tough, hard, insensitive persona he feels is necessary to get his men to respond to him, and to the activities of war in a way that will allow them to actually win.  (&#8230;)</span></p></blockquote>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Sgt. Barnes is the antithesis of Hamlet. He relies on his knowledge of war to react and perform quickly. He&#8217;s not one to sit around and consider, contemplate, or ponder situations. (&#8230;)</span></p>
<p><img class="size-full wp-image-1805 alignleft" title="cudz" src="http://platoonics.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cudz.jpg?w=23&#038;h=17" alt="" width="23" height="17" /></p>
<p><span style="color:#003366;">Cause drives Sgt. Barnes. Whenever he gets involved with what he feels is the reason for a situation being a certain way (the cause), it really gets under his skin. This is why he is so bothered by Elias. Elias has his own take on particular causes the platoon faces. Since these two view the war differently, their view of certain causes is a source of tension for them.  (&#8230;)</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Effect will end the source of Sgt. Barnes&#8217; drive and motivation. By reprimanding the platoon on the all night ambush, Barnes feels he will be able to get his men to perform better on their missions; By denouncing and challenging Lt. Wolfe&#8217;s authority, Barnes will secure more control over the platoon; The effect of killing Elias will prevent Barnes from having to deal with any &#8220;crusaders&#8221; in his platoon. (&#8230;)</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">When two more platoon members are killed by a booby trap in an abandoned enemy bunker, Chris notices Sgt. Barnes sitting down, lost in a thought. Barnes is obviously affected by the deaths of more of his men, enough so to make him momentarily lose his tough, military sergeant facade and expose a slight vulnerability. (&#8230;)</span></p></blockquote>
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<p>Hmmmm, not sure about that:</p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">&#8220;Death&#8230; What do y&#8217;all know &#8217;bout death?&#8221; is what Barnes asks Chris and the others of the &#8220;head&#8221; when he confronts them about Elias. What Barnes is really saying to the men is &#8220;You don&#8217;t know about death. Only I know about death.&#8221; Whenever Sgt. Barnes comes across as the old wise one, it really doesn&#8217;t play well. If there&#8217;s one thing these men know, it&#8217;s that anyone can die at any time, and death has no loyalties. Barnes seems to think he owns an exclusive insight to death. This often undermines his own credibility when he tries to impose his wisdom on others. (&#8230;)</span></p></blockquote>
<p>To me he seemed to have a lot of credibility, even if the most of his background reminds unsaid, he definitely knows more, having faced death more often and closer than any of the other guys.</p>
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<p>This is one of the few points about Elias vs. Barnes conflict:</p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Sgt. Barnes and Sgt. Elias get into an altercation over Sgt. Barnes&#8217; controversial behavior and questionable leadership in the village. As a result, the platoon becomes cloaked in civil war. Half the platoon sides with Sgt. Elias, and the other half with Sgt. Barnes. Morale among the platoon is bad. Suspicion and hate cause them to turn on each other. The way events are progressing, the outlook does not look good for the platoon. (&#8230;)</span></p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">When the all night ambush goes awry, Sgt. Barnes focuses on Chris&#8217; preconscious responses as being the cause of the problem. </span><strong><span style="color:#003366;">Barnes believes that Chris fell asleep during his watch, allowing the enemy to sneak up on the platoon</span></strong><span style="color:#003366;">. Even though this isn&#8217;t true, Barnes blames Chris&#8217; inability to resist his impulse to sleep as the cause of the platoon&#8217;s two casualties (&#8230;)</span></p></blockquote>
<p>IMO Barnes knew EXACTLY who fell asleep. He just don&#8217;t bother to discuss it in front of the men, maybe even to avoid the possibility of being openly blamed by Elias for sending the new guys on the night ambush.</p>
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<p><span style="color:#003366;">Sgt. Barnes&#8217; impact on Chris eventually dehumanizes him to the point where he is capable of killing his commanding officer, fully conscious that he is committing the same type of immoral act that Sgt. Barnes has engaged in. (&#8230;)</span></p></blockquote>
<p>Yeah, &#8220;only Barnes can kill Barnes&#8221;.</p>
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